I've been trading views with Xiera over at The Moonkin Repository lately over the value of the 4T8 set bonus in relationship to both cycles. The real concern is the 4T8 bonus's synergy with the precasting phase of the Lunar rotation and the Eclipse phase of the Solar rotation. As many of you know, Graylo recently posted on the DPS increase his model shows for 4T8 on both rotations. I think (or hope) that everyone agrees at this point that when the change goes live, 4T8 will be beneficial and deserves a place in any BiS list.

Today, I took a look at the semantics of using a 4T8 proc at the "wrong" time. My initial gut feeling was that it would be worthwhile to use a 4T8 proc under the effects of Solar Eclipse but would result in a decrease if used in a precasting phase of a Lunar rotation and caused the wrong Eclipse to proc. Let's start with the simpler case, the Solar Eclipse proc.

Solar Eclipse

Even though the Starfire from 4T8 is instant, it still evokes a GCD. Since Wrath has a cast time equal to the GCD, I am going to say that for all practical intents and purposes the 4Tb proc and Wrath have the same cast time. I am also assuming that the Idol of Steadfast Renewal is equipped.

Because we have 4T8, we naturally have 2T8 (durrrr statement, I know, but I forgot it in my initial calculations). We expect to see a 45% increase to damage for all Wrath cast under the effects of Eclipse. Since Wrath and the 4T8 proc have the same cast time, we need only show that the average Starfire is greater than or equal to the average Eclipsed Wrath. If that is true, then it would always be a benefit to consume the 4T8 proc during a Solar rotation. So here's a graph of damage calculations at varying levels of Spell Power from 2000 to 4000.

As we can see, the graph shows that Starfire gains an even bigger advantage over Wrath as we gain Spell Power. Thus, it is my recommendation to always use a 4T8 proc during a Solar Eclipse, regardless of time remaining.

Lunar Precasting Phase

In the precasting phase, we are casting Wrath. I will assume that the Idol of the Shooting Star is equipped. I will also be using a druid equipped in Graylo's choices for BiS as he calculated his BiS for a Lunar rotation as I did mine for a Solar rotation.

We only experience a problem when Starfire crits and procs a Solar Eclipse, changing our rotation from the desired Lunar Eclipse. I will be comparing the difference of a crit Starfire vs average Wrath to the DPS gain/loss of proccing the incorrect Eclipse.


Surprisingly, I did not notice a very large difference between the Solar Eclipse with the wrong idol and the Lunar Eclipse with the correct idol. I was initially bothered by this until I recalled that all of this was in a perfect Spell Queuing environment and the value of the Solar Eclipse would decrease with every Wrath cast that did not queue properly. So theoretically, my advice as per the numbers is to use the 4T8 proc whenever you can.

TL:DR

The short version of my work here was that no matter when you receive a 4T8 proc, it is appears advantageous to use it.

I wanted to push these results out first because I have the suspicion that my next bit of work might take some time to complete. I want to look into the effects of the spell queuing system and adjust the worth of the Solar Eclipse based on both latency and player reaction time.

Please do not walk away from this post saying that you should always cast 4T8 whenever it procs. This is only true for a perfect environment with zero latency and a 0ms reaction time.